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  • 2014
  • film
  • Japan

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romanized tokyo tribe
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aka toukyou toraibu, トウキョウ トライブ

Based On

based on manga
title TOKYO TRIBE 2
author Inoue Santa (井上三太)

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genres action, drama

Language

language Japanese

Production

country Japan
type real
format film

Release

date 30 Aug, 2014
duration 116 minutes
status finished

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avg. score 3.42 of 5 by 59 users
total users 115
rating 202

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Set in the future, this musical shows the different gangs or 'tribes' in Tokyo and their wars.

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Mera
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Iwao
supporting
Tera
supporting
Kim
supporting
Norichan
supporting
KESHA
supporting

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majorzero 10 Sep, 2015
@Random chan @purefault That was a good discussion about art. Just wanna point out the problem I have with overly obsessive fans is their attitude toward people who don't share their opinion. To clarify, I don't think anyone of us is saint or above insults, moreover I dare to say that we all were jerks at some point in time, but the thing is, when you're past the certain age you should learn how to behave properly and don't get mad because of trivial stuff like different taste. Sometimes it's unavoidable, sometimes it's good to have an argument, just remain civil and have at least formal respect to people you don't even know.
purefault 09 Sep, 2015
@Random chan But I think persistence and honesty are all that matters when it comes to art, so artists who aren't getting much attention should stick to those simple keys, and they'll have a breakthrough someday.

I might read some of the manga sometime just to see what it's like.
And now I wonder if Sono will ever do another musical... haha.

Yeah, his very next film after Tokyo Tribe was Shinjuku Swan >.
Random chan 09 Sep, 2015
@purefault omg you totally said something awesome about unknown artists. Going to film festivals really made me realise it. A lot of younger artists or less known ones frequently get less attention and it's so upsetting. I totally support talented young creators, they have awesome ideas too a lot of times!

And I'm not familiar with the manga too so I can't say how good it is as an adaptation. I said 'innovative' but I meant more like the style of the camera work here... it was very 'unique' in many senses.

XD Maybe he misses you :P
purefault 09 Sep, 2015
@Random chan I feel like that's a completely different situation though since it involves someone directly hurting someone else. When it comes to art or entertainment, it's all about taste. In fact, I dislike when people idolize others or look up to them just because of how they look. So many people get caught up in this idea of beauty to where an "average" person isn't "beautiful", but since they can't be with some idol, and "average" person will be "good enough" for them... but that's a completely different subject. haha.

But it's okay to say something is good and say it blindly because that's what entertainment is for a lot of people. it doesn't make too much of a difference, but it IS a shame when a lot of artists who are trying very hard to say something with their work get no attention because they're overshadowed by people making shallow films or music (and I mean, even I can enjoy shallow stuff at times), but then again, it can make the works of those smaller artists even more special. It can go both ways. The important thing is that artists keep saying what they want to say no matter what.

Yeah, I wish he had done more with the female characters (I don't always like how he handles them in his works), but as far as the camera work, I feel like he was going for kind of a manga-ish feel at times. It was definitely a bit different than his previous works.
I think this one was more of an experience than just a film. I don't think he was trying to be innovative, though, but I also haven't read the original manga, so I can't compare it to that. hmm.
It definitely made me want to go live in Shinjuku again... even though Tokyo isn't like how it looks in the film. haha. Except the Robot Restaurant (I'm pretty sure that's where some of it was filmed). I only lived there a short time, but I miss it even more now.
Why did Sono start shooting so much in Shinjuku now that I'm gone? haha
Random chan 09 Sep, 2015
@purefault XD I think you misunderstood my tone <3! I actually meant that I'm really happy that you brought it up but that I believe, like you said yourself, that it's cool to see smth critically. I agree with you that when people enjoy something, it's not totally trashy in that sense, but when a certain thing kind of becomes liked by because it's by a certain person (regardless what it is), it's kind of sad. I mean, you know those cases where there are idols or whatever and they do something wrong and then their fans tell people that they didn't do anything wrong and they're lying? (Like there was this idol who had a scandal about being violent towards his gf and despite evidence and all, lots of fans told that the gf is a liar and that the idol is a perfect man). So for me, I feel like generally thinking in 'absolute terms' about anything is not a good thing. So I just wanted to clarify that not all people who like Sono Shion are fangirls or anything like that (and I don't think badly of them XD), it's just that I do find it bothersome that there are certain people who just blindly say something is good just because and I personally don't agree with that. But mostly I used the word 'fangirl' to be goofy :).

But thanks for throwing in your opinion about the matter too. It's true that some people (including myself sometimes) do get angry when they watch something and it's really not enjoyable to them. I feel sometimes like by writing my negative opinion, I can have closure, hahaha :). I usually just pour my heart out and let my negative emotions get into my review too in that sense.

But to relate it to the film: for me, I personally don't enjoy how tokyo tribe was so... idk, too much and it didn't feel like a film to me. And I generally don't like female characters in Sono Shion's films so that bothered me here a lot too (leaving aside technical aspects of the work that I didn't like such as the camerawork). I guess that it tried to be innovative and maybe people would like that about this film, but for me it simply didn't work well.
purefault 09 Sep, 2015
@Random chan What I meant was, some people are like that, and that's okay, but it can come off like talking down on them for it. And even if you think it's the biggest piece of trash in the universe, if someone really loves it and experiences something from it, could it truly be trash? It's really just all a matter of perspective. That's really all I meant. But to make someone see something more critically, it can definitely take careful wording since people can easily feel like they're being attacked for their tastes when it comes to talking online.
I feel like I see films from a perspective that's halfway between critical and an average viewer. I don't think there's anything such as perfection when it comes to art/entertainment, and I'm glad there isn't... and so films that took me through a unique experience that I'll never forget, and ones I could watch many times and never get tired of - those are the ones I give a 10/10.
And I honestly feel a little bad when someone else hates things I love because I'd like them to be able to have an experience like I had, but I know that they'll probably end up having such an experience through another film, maybe one that I dislike.
But it's definitely good to talk about things you dislike; I wasn't try to imply otherwise.
Online, though, it's so hard to keep a debate from turning into an argument.
Again, I was just meaning to speak more generally.
Random chan 09 Sep, 2015
@purefault fangirls = people who love a work by someone just because the someone is this specific someone. Like, if person A makes a film it will be amazing even if it's the biggest trash in the universe of trash. I think one needs to always see works in a critical kind of way even if it's by their favourite actor or director or idk what. I have screenwriters and novelists that I adore and I would literally watch / read anything they're remotely related to but it just happens that I don't like 100% of the things they're involved in. Why? Because I'm able to consume something without being totally biased by it. I told you many times that although I don't like Sono Shion, I did enjoy his earlier works for many reasons.

I do feel like I need to comment still on his films and talk about things I dislike because among those people who love him unconditionally are also people who are able to think for themselves and maybe by provoking their thoughts, they can see things in a more critical way. Just the same as if someone enjoyed a work that I don't like, I would totally want them to explain to me what they liked about it so I can rewatch the work with the comment in mind (or at least rethink my opinion).
purefault 09 Sep, 2015
@majorzero @Random chan @daredaniel
Just butting in on some comments... he probably just ignores whatever flaws he has and does what he does because he loves what he does (that sounds redundant, but yeah). Our opinions of his work won't really change that, but a lot of people love his films because of it. We're all seeing his work from different perspectives.

Arguments get much, much worse on places like IMDb too... I think people just get frustrated when others trash or talk badly about stuff they love, but it's natural. I think maybe a lot of times, certain comments/opinions come off as too serious? Like at times, I see reviews about film I like that share a very well-constructed, negative opinion, but it's as if the writer is personally angry that the film exists. I think many comments can come off that way, and it can make the reader feel like he or she is being talked down to because they're a fan of the film (and in many cases, people DO talk down to the fans).
It's just best to keep comments to just those about the film itself. I love Sono as a director (although I really only love half his films), but that doesn't really make me a "fangirl". And people that love a director's work unconditionally... there's nothing wrong with that. To each their own, right?
Some people just seem to be offended that others like what they dislike... (not saying that to anyone here directly).

Just some general thoughts from the outside looking in.
Why don't we all just be one big Tokyo Tribe :p
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